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	<title>Comments on: Sir Oswald Mosley: Blackshirt &#8211; Stephen Dorril</title>
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		<title>By: Byron Davies</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-74694</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosley may have expounded theoretical Fascism in print, but opportunistically engaged with racists in practice, but there is no reason why the Integralist Party will. Mosley was operating in very different times and most working people indentified strongly with the Labour party in Britain, his national left programme had little chance of gaining widespread support in that political atmosphere. And so the temptation to take the low road became too much and he succumbed. Love the sinner hate the sin.
Times have changed and the Labour party long ago abandoned Socialism in any form, prefering a sort of liberal Metropolitan elitism that the man down at the Dog and Duck can&#039;t remotely relate to. The Blue labour project tries to address this problem but is in reality nothing more than a bunch of metropolitan intellectuals itself. Now a space is there on the left for Integralism to fulfil what fascism was always supposed to be, not a movement for racists and conservative Colonel Blimps but a movement of radical vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosley may have expounded theoretical Fascism in print, but opportunistically engaged with racists in practice, but there is no reason why the Integralist Party will. Mosley was operating in very different times and most working people indentified strongly with the Labour party in Britain, his national left programme had little chance of gaining widespread support in that political atmosphere. And so the temptation to take the low road became too much and he succumbed. Love the sinner hate the sin.<br />
Times have changed and the Labour party long ago abandoned Socialism in any form, prefering a sort of liberal Metropolitan elitism that the man down at the Dog and Duck can&#8217;t remotely relate to. The Blue labour project tries to address this problem but is in reality nothing more than a bunch of metropolitan intellectuals itself. Now a space is there on the left for Integralism to fulfil what fascism was always supposed to be, not a movement for racists and conservative Colonel Blimps but a movement of radical vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-60575</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff says: &#039;After the war, Mosley’s Union Movement had an Associate Movement for immigrants from the West Indies, Africa and asia who supported his policy of giving them a fair deal in their countries of origin. It was headed by a Nigerian Pilot and an Indian Accountant.&#039;

And, of course, there were numbers of collaborators in Nazi-occupied Europe. This is hardly evidence   of the legitimacy of the Nazi occupiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff says: &#8216;After the war, Mosley’s Union Movement had an Associate Movement for immigrants from the West Indies, Africa and asia who supported his policy of giving them a fair deal in their countries of origin. It was headed by a Nigerian Pilot and an Indian Accountant.&#8217;</p>
<p>And, of course, there were numbers of collaborators in Nazi-occupied Europe. This is hardly evidence   of the legitimacy of the Nazi occupiers.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-60574</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee says &#039;The lack of impartiality or historical objectivity should enrage me...&#039;

In what way should a reviewer be &#039;impartial&#039; or &#039; historically objective&#039; in reviewing a biography of Mosley? A review is not a work of academic scholarship. Has Lee read the biography itself? It is interesting that Lee praises Skidelsky&#039;s biography (which I have read), clearly purely because it paints a more sympathetic picture. But is synpathy really the rest of impartiality? I suspect Lee&#039;s politics are to be found somewhere on the Right. His idea of impartiality is that only minor criticism should be made of any figure on the Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee says &#8216;The lack of impartiality or historical objectivity should enrage me&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>In what way should a reviewer be &#8216;impartial&#8217; or &#8216; historically objective&#8217; in reviewing a biography of Mosley? A review is not a work of academic scholarship. Has Lee read the biography itself? It is interesting that Lee praises Skidelsky&#8217;s biography (which I have read), clearly purely because it paints a more sympathetic picture. But is synpathy really the rest of impartiality? I suspect Lee&#8217;s politics are to be found somewhere on the Right. His idea of impartiality is that only minor criticism should be made of any figure on the Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-33960</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the war, Mosley&#039;s Union Movement had an Associate Movement for immigrants from the West Indies, Africa and asia who supported his policy of giving them a fair deal in their countries of origin. It was headed by a Nigerian Pilot and an Indian Accountant. Mosley developed detailed proposals for restoring the economies of these countries before offering the voluntary repatriation with immigrants with engineering and construction skills etc going first to build the infrastructure before the main body of immigrants returned. And he detailed proposals for kick starting the economies of these countries like buying our sugar from the West Indies (rather than Cuba) and giving preferential prices for their bauxite (aluminium ore). Can&#039;t imagine the BNP or the old NF having an Associate Movement can you?

Many of Mosley&#039;s followers suffered imprisonment without trial (at least 1100 in the war), loss of jobs, abuse and general hostility. We certainly didn&#039;t endure that to support the evil meglomaniac described in Dorril&#039;s deeply flawed book. And we knew him personally so we knew what he was really like. Mosley had brains, guts and an infinite power to charm. The world will not see his like again for many a long year.

Anyway he lost, his enemies won and you can see the result: credit crunch, never ending wars that are nothing to do with us, urban decay, drugs, disease, crime - all rampant. You can&#039;t blame him for that, a Mosley government would never have let it happen. And incidentally nobody is campaigning harder for justice for the Arab and Islamic people suffering from 60 years of state sponsored Israeli terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the war, Mosley&#8217;s Union Movement had an Associate Movement for immigrants from the West Indies, Africa and asia who supported his policy of giving them a fair deal in their countries of origin. It was headed by a Nigerian Pilot and an Indian Accountant. Mosley developed detailed proposals for restoring the economies of these countries before offering the voluntary repatriation with immigrants with engineering and construction skills etc going first to build the infrastructure before the main body of immigrants returned. And he detailed proposals for kick starting the economies of these countries like buying our sugar from the West Indies (rather than Cuba) and giving preferential prices for their bauxite (aluminium ore). Can&#8217;t imagine the BNP or the old NF having an Associate Movement can you?</p>
<p>Many of Mosley&#8217;s followers suffered imprisonment without trial (at least 1100 in the war), loss of jobs, abuse and general hostility. We certainly didn&#8217;t endure that to support the evil meglomaniac described in Dorril&#8217;s deeply flawed book. And we knew him personally so we knew what he was really like. Mosley had brains, guts and an infinite power to charm. The world will not see his like again for many a long year.</p>
<p>Anyway he lost, his enemies won and you can see the result: credit crunch, never ending wars that are nothing to do with us, urban decay, drugs, disease, crime &#8211; all rampant. You can&#8217;t blame him for that, a Mosley government would never have let it happen. And incidentally nobody is campaigning harder for justice for the Arab and Islamic people suffering from 60 years of state sponsored Israeli terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B. Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-33734</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. B. Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charming. Actually I would put it to you that taking a racial stance is the worst thing any nationalist movement can do because ‘race’ and ‘nation’ are two contradicting terms, one cannot purport one without renouncing the other. For your information the BNP are doing awfully given the current climate, they dominate the entire far right unopposed, are able to field a candidate in nearly every constituency, their policies are backed by a vast majority of the public, yet they can barely poll over 1% of the popular vote. It is quite sad how people lack faith in the British who have clearly shown they don’t want white nationalism, and do not want to be reduced to yet another interest group, they want Nation. The BNP does not appeal to this, it has no vision, no intelligence, and no understanding of the hopes and dreams of the people, so let us just say that any organisation which has any grasp of such rudimentary concepts and seeks to dislodge the British National Party can do so with relative ease. Playing the race card can win votes because you are appealing to a niche, but in doing so you isolate yourself from the rest of the population as only a limited number of people will be prepared to accept your ideas. 

Everyone knows the BUF was at its height before anyone even considered it anti-Semitic, when it had some 40-50,000 members and the backing of the daily mail. When the BUF openly allowed anti Semites to ‘do their own thing’ it suffered two fold; it did not throw itself into anti Semitism and refused to merge with the imperial fascist league and other Nazi affiliated organisations, and the BUF suffered for not being anti-Semitic enough as the party split over the issue when its leading anti Semitic intellectuals went off to form the national socialist league (all 60 of them). As for Oswald Mosley he was not a racist and made it abundantly clear that enacting one is impractical and counter productive. That said as a scholar on the subject, I would be interested to know if you could provide me with any sourced evidence that Oswald Mosley was a racist, I am not closed to the notion but the onus is on you to prove it. As for conspiracy theorist is was sir Oswald that said “Anyone who knows how difficult it is to keep a secret among three men - particularly if they are married - knows how absurd is the idea of a worldwide secret conspiracy consciously controlling all mankind by its financial power; in real, clear analysis”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charming. Actually I would put it to you that taking a racial stance is the worst thing any nationalist movement can do because ‘race’ and ‘nation’ are two contradicting terms, one cannot purport one without renouncing the other. For your information the BNP are doing awfully given the current climate, they dominate the entire far right unopposed, are able to field a candidate in nearly every constituency, their policies are backed by a vast majority of the public, yet they can barely poll over 1% of the popular vote. It is quite sad how people lack faith in the British who have clearly shown they don’t want white nationalism, and do not want to be reduced to yet another interest group, they want Nation. The BNP does not appeal to this, it has no vision, no intelligence, and no understanding of the hopes and dreams of the people, so let us just say that any organisation which has any grasp of such rudimentary concepts and seeks to dislodge the British National Party can do so with relative ease. Playing the race card can win votes because you are appealing to a niche, but in doing so you isolate yourself from the rest of the population as only a limited number of people will be prepared to accept your ideas. </p>
<p>Everyone knows the BUF was at its height before anyone even considered it anti-Semitic, when it had some 40-50,000 members and the backing of the daily mail. When the BUF openly allowed anti Semites to ‘do their own thing’ it suffered two fold; it did not throw itself into anti Semitism and refused to merge with the imperial fascist league and other Nazi affiliated organisations, and the BUF suffered for not being anti-Semitic enough as the party split over the issue when its leading anti Semitic intellectuals went off to form the national socialist league (all 60 of them). As for Oswald Mosley he was not a racist and made it abundantly clear that enacting one is impractical and counter productive. That said as a scholar on the subject, I would be interested to know if you could provide me with any sourced evidence that Oswald Mosley was a racist, I am not closed to the notion but the onus is on you to prove it. As for conspiracy theorist is was sir Oswald that said “Anyone who knows how difficult it is to keep a secret among three men &#8211; particularly if they are married &#8211; knows how absurd is the idea of a worldwide secret conspiracy consciously controlling all mankind by its financial power; in real, clear analysis”</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-33712</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr B Raymond, you may not be a racist, fascist, anti-semite conspiracy theorist, but you are in thrall to and idolise a man who quite clearly was every one of those things. You can see where the confusion might lie there? I have viewed your party&#039;s website and clearly see you are going down the theoretical fascist route without making an appeal for racism. Thing is, its the racism that keeps a movement of that kind going I’m afraid. That’s why I’m sure the membership of your party could meet up in a Routemaster bus, while the BNP are faring rather better. Oswald realised this, which was why he sent out mobs of fuckwits who kicked the shit out of Jews in the early years and black people in the latter. In the 50s, at the same time as theorising in print along similarly pretentious lines to yourself, he whipped up his baying hordes with intelligent reforming lines like “Lassie for dogs, kittekat for wogs!” Yelling that the wogs were out to rape every white woman they could get their hands on, then standing back and watching the consequences. 

Now, you don’t have to be a “noisy communist” to vilify a “genius” like that. And that’s why, if your party leader really is black, he should be fucking ashamed of himself. And it’s also why you can fuck right off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr B Raymond, you may not be a racist, fascist, anti-semite conspiracy theorist, but you are in thrall to and idolise a man who quite clearly was every one of those things. You can see where the confusion might lie there? I have viewed your party&#8217;s website and clearly see you are going down the theoretical fascist route without making an appeal for racism. Thing is, its the racism that keeps a movement of that kind going I’m afraid. That’s why I’m sure the membership of your party could meet up in a Routemaster bus, while the BNP are faring rather better. Oswald realised this, which was why he sent out mobs of fuckwits who kicked the shit out of Jews in the early years and black people in the latter. In the 50s, at the same time as theorising in print along similarly pretentious lines to yourself, he whipped up his baying hordes with intelligent reforming lines like “Lassie for dogs, kittekat for wogs!” Yelling that the wogs were out to rape every white woman they could get their hands on, then standing back and watching the consequences. </p>
<p>Now, you don’t have to be a “noisy communist” to vilify a “genius” like that. And that’s why, if your party leader really is black, he should be fucking ashamed of himself. And it’s also why you can fuck right off.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B. Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. B. Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Ben. G, I am not quite sure where to start. You accuse me of being a racist, nazi, fascist, anti Semite, conspiracy theorist for defending the most under recognised and misunderstood politician of the 20th century? I think you are the one who looks into Dorril’s book and seed so called ‘fact’ when there is really only repetitive unsubstantiated claim. You clearly did not look at my organisations lovely website long enough to realise you could not be more wrong. The IP is made up of many ethnic minorities, jewish, Indian, and the party leader is black, and we are all committed to an anti racist platform. Just thought I would make that clear. 

I am not any stranger to truth, I would not put the claims of Mosley’s opponents past him, but I have yet to find any evidence to support them, and thus tarnish his immaculate character. It would seem though the leftist glove puppet view of Mosley as the incarnation of political evil has gained popularity (even among some deranged authors it would seem), it is principally because it is only a certain crowd of noisy communists who feel the need to attack a man who has been dead for 20 years so they can give themselves a pat on the back. Mosley was clearly a genius whose innovative ideas were stifled by a system that resists progress, and whose later movement was simply a patriotic organisation of intelligent young reformists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Ben. G, I am not quite sure where to start. You accuse me of being a racist, nazi, fascist, anti Semite, conspiracy theorist for defending the most under recognised and misunderstood politician of the 20th century? I think you are the one who looks into Dorril’s book and seed so called ‘fact’ when there is really only repetitive unsubstantiated claim. You clearly did not look at my organisations lovely website long enough to realise you could not be more wrong. The IP is made up of many ethnic minorities, jewish, Indian, and the party leader is black, and we are all committed to an anti racist platform. Just thought I would make that clear. </p>
<p>I am not any stranger to truth, I would not put the claims of Mosley’s opponents past him, but I have yet to find any evidence to support them, and thus tarnish his immaculate character. It would seem though the leftist glove puppet view of Mosley as the incarnation of political evil has gained popularity (even among some deranged authors it would seem), it is principally because it is only a certain crowd of noisy communists who feel the need to attack a man who has been dead for 20 years so they can give themselves a pat on the back. Mosley was clearly a genius whose innovative ideas were stifled by a system that resists progress, and whose later movement was simply a patriotic organisation of intelligent young reformists.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G</title>
		<link>http://www.spikemagazine.com/oswald-mosley-blackshirt-biography-stephen-dorril.php#comment-33363</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is Mr Raymond, as I say in my review, Mr Dorril&#039;s work is if anything overly dispassionate and heavy on a great many astutely recorded facts - straightforward facts - a polemic it ain&#039;t. Now, most of these facts happen to reveal Mosley to be an absolute shit of the lowest order, and his closest lackeys a gang of psychopathic fruitloops,  but hey, the truth can hurt lovey. Presumably its all lies in your eyes, but my God that&#039;s a lot of detailed outright fabrication Mr Dorril would have had to get up to.

You suggest the autobiography of the man Mosley himself  would offer a more balanced read. Presumably you and your &quot;Integralist Party&quot; (dig the logo dude! Where did you get THAT idea from?) would recommend Mein Kampf as the most measured historical view of Weimar Germany too. 

Thankfully for connoseurs such as yourself and Lee there are two modern scholars who stand bravely against the oppressive Marxoid-Zionist grand conspiracy in modern historiography - the two Davids;  Irving and Icke. Their many works are all available on Amazon. Integralists, lizard-spotters and Holocaust &quot;sceptics&quot; all welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is Mr Raymond, as I say in my review, Mr Dorril&#8217;s work is if anything overly dispassionate and heavy on a great many astutely recorded facts &#8211; straightforward facts &#8211; a polemic it ain&#8217;t. Now, most of these facts happen to reveal Mosley to be an absolute shit of the lowest order, and his closest lackeys a gang of psychopathic fruitloops,  but hey, the truth can hurt lovey. Presumably its all lies in your eyes, but my God that&#8217;s a lot of detailed outright fabrication Mr Dorril would have had to get up to.</p>
<p>You suggest the autobiography of the man Mosley himself  would offer a more balanced read. Presumably you and your &#8220;Integralist Party&#8221; (dig the logo dude! Where did you get THAT idea from?) would recommend Mein Kampf as the most measured historical view of Weimar Germany too. </p>
<p>Thankfully for connoseurs such as yourself and Lee there are two modern scholars who stand bravely against the oppressive Marxoid-Zionist grand conspiracy in modern historiography &#8211; the two Davids;  Irving and Icke. Their many works are all available on Amazon. Integralists, lizard-spotters and Holocaust &#8220;sceptics&#8221; all welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B. Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. B. Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with lee, I would rather lose a finger than attempt to read this biased nonsense again. I know someone who read this to the end and retains only a vicerol hatred of Mosley without actually knowing anything about him, the sign of a book where the Authors opinion and &#039;message&#039; matters more than fact and evidence. Anyone wishing to wash their hands of this should read the very professional and impartial &#039;hurrah for the blackshirts&#039; by Martin Pugh, or better still read OM&#039;s &#039;my life&#039; and judge for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with lee, I would rather lose a finger than attempt to read this biased nonsense again. I know someone who read this to the end and retains only a vicerol hatred of Mosley without actually knowing anything about him, the sign of a book where the Authors opinion and &#8216;message&#8217; matters more than fact and evidence. Anyone wishing to wash their hands of this should read the very professional and impartial &#8216;hurrah for the blackshirts&#8217; by Martin Pugh, or better still read OM&#8217;s &#8216;my life&#8217; and judge for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Dorril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Dorril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Atrocious&quot; by &quot;Lee&quot;, student of British Fascism - I might put that on the next reprint!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Atrocious&#8221; by &#8220;Lee&#8221;, student of British Fascism &#8211; I might put that on the next reprint!</p>
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